. >> do you here from russia and china, the country's you were referring to, that they will put pressure on assad to go? >> they have been putting pressure on him to a tear to the plan. if fully implemented, it would result -- to adhere to the plan. if fully implemented, it would result in a democratic election. they may think that he could survive the democratic election, but the rest of the world feel otherwise. >> there was strong condemnation from the united nations on the rocket launch. have you come to the conclusion that the carrot of food aid is not working? >> food aid was not a carrot. it was part of a larger agreement which the north koreans abrogated when they decided to go through this launch -- with this launch. they have gotten a unified, swift condemnation in the strongest terms. we agreed to sanctions. they received a warning that, should they pursue another launch or nuclear test, that the security council is determined to take further action accordingly. >> are you concerned -- this is the pattern, right? failure on the no. 3 and's part, -- on the north korean's part,